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Spotting/hives........people's reactions.

Jul. 13th, 2007 | 07:39 am
posted by: allgirlsmama in nonvaxsupport

My 5yo daughter was bit by a tick a few weeks ago.  A week after it happened, a rashy red ring started to appear, so I bypassed my homeopath and took her to our family dr. (a D.O.).  Actually, one of his partners because he was on vacation.  Anyway, doc said it looked like Lyme, so she was put on Amoxicillin (3xs a day, for 3 weeks).  Her first time on antibiotics.  She had been taking it for over a week with no problems.  She woke up on Tuesday covered in spots.  And they were itchy.

My instincts told me:
it wasn't c.pox (too sudden)
it wasn't mesasles (no fever)
it wasn't Rocky Mount Spotting Fever (no fever)
possible virus
possible reaction to meds

But I took her in anyway so see our regular doctor (thank God he was back).  He immediately said it looked like an allergic reaction to the antibiotics.  However we should cross all our "T"s, and draw some blood.  She had 6 blood tests done- only took a minute though.  (Mind you he's NOT vax friendly- rather he's not a vax pusher AT ALL and is very knowledgable about current research, etc..).  So I knew he just wanted to be thorough in case we did need to start a regimen to get her better.  We agreed that she might have to go back on a different antibx if the blood test showed that her antibodies were still off (for the Lyme).

I've not let her out of our home in the meantime.  It's very hot out here right now, and I didn't want her itchy to become worse with sweat/ sun exposure before 7pm.  She snuck out on me yesterday and sat on the front step (with a sweatshirt on, and jeans- to cover her spots..LOL).  Well of course a neighborhood girl saw her, and all hell broke loose.  "SHE HAS CHICKEN POX!"...followed by screaming.  So her little friend ran in, told her 4 other siblings (ages 7-16)- who then came out, took a gander, and ran to all the  other neighbor's houses.

This is what our society has done to our children.

I was sickened.

First of all, when I was a kid, everyone got the chicken pox naturally.  Secondly, nobody was scared to death to see a "spotted" kid.
Needless to say, my daughter was soo upset.  So I made her sit back down on the step and I demanded that the entire neighborhood gather around my fence to hear me out.  I explained the situation.  That it's not the plague.  That there's no need to panic.  That there's nothing terribly wrong with my child.  After that, they all calmed down and started asking questions- which was nice.  It made Lorie feel better, and I think they learned a little bit about the human body and how it reacts to certain problems,.... how the spots are realeasing the yuckies out.  That she's getting better.  Her body is doing a wonderful job.  Then they were like, "Yaaay!".

So we are still awaiting results, but I'm sure it's the allergic reaction. :)

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His Parents...

Jul. 18th, 2006 | 05:34 pm
posted by: peterkat in nonvaxsupport

Hi everyone! I have just joined the community and wanted to say hello. I also have a question...

My husband's parents are very concerned and don't understand my choice to not vaccinate our son, Cadin. Cadin is 1 month old and we did not do the Hep B vaccine. I am trying to make his parents understand that I am really doing the right thing. They are very concerned that I will not be able to take him to day care (which I am not planning on doing anyway) or that he won't be able to attend school. I explained the waiver thing that you can do so that he can still attend school. They are of the mind set that they vaccinated their 2 kids and that was good enough for them. I am really trying to educate them on the dangers of vaccinating but they still look at me like I am crazy. Has anyone else run into this problem? What did you do about it?

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Great Expereince with Pediatrician AND local school system!

Jul. 6th, 2006 | 08:00 pm
mood: chipperchipper
posted by: stormraven37 in nonvaxsupport

I jsut wanted to share my expereinces with our new pediatrician and the local schools here. We switched peds becuase our former ped was less than enthusiastic re our not vaxxing. Well, I'm thrilled to say that our new doc not only supports it but she validated all of our reasons for not doing it. And, for those that do chose to slow vax or separate vaxx's they have the shots available in separate doses in the office. THat really impressed me. Also, we just registered our DD in kindergarten and I was very nervous about what the school would say - well, I need not have worried even a little bit. Not only were they fine with it but they informed us that it's not something that is uncommon.

again - I just wanted to share this with you - I know that some of us go through hell over these issues and I thought it might give a little hope for those that need it.

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High Fevers

Mar. 1st, 2006 | 01:43 pm
mood: busybusy
posted by: allgirlsmama in nonvaxsupport

With all the viruses going around, you are bound to encounter the famous "high fever". DO NOT PANIC. Here are some helpful tips as well as useful links.

About Fevers:
From Natural Family Online:
High fevers cause brain damage and seizures.
False! A fever cannot cause brain damage unless it climbs over about 107º Fahrenheit. Fever can create febrile seizures. These are caused by how fast your child’s body temperature rises, not by how high the temperature goes.

Fever helps our immune systems get rid of infection, so in most cases, it is best not to interfere. Your child’s behavior is the best indicator of how severe his illness is -- not the number on the thermometer.

Fever increases the amount of fluid your child needs, so keep him well hydrated. (See Karen Prior’s suggestions for increasing fluid intake in our Ask the Experts section) Your child’s appetite may be limited during fever, but resist the urge to offer sugary treats to tempt him to eat. Focus on fluids, and offer small portions of nutritious foods frequently.

Kids generally feel bad when they run fever, so listen to those little bodies. Keep them in bed or another quiet, restful place until the fever is gone. Low stress is key to a healthy immune system. Avoid alcohol rubs, unnecessary baths or other activities that might cause the shivers.

Nutrients such as vitamin A, vitamin C, selenium and zinc are known to support the body’s immune function. You might choose an appropriate multivitamin and mineral supplement, or simple add these nutrients to your diet. Include plenty of orange and green produce, whole grains and nuts, dairy products or meats.

Herbalists often recommend herbs that have historically been used for fever, including catnip, yarrow and feverfew. Just remember that herbs are medicine too. Take care to follow the instructions printed on the label or given by your health care provider.

From Dr. Sears

I love this page . Here's an excerpt:

The average normal temperature in a healthy human is said to be 98.4°F (37°C), but this can vary quite markedly. Most people, adults and children, can run a fever of up to 104°F (40°C) for several days with no danger. It is normal for healthy infants and children to throw high fevers 103°F (39.5°C) and over with an infection. A temperature of 105°F(40.5°C) is a serious cause for concern, but it is only when it passes above 106°F (41.0°C) that there is a risk to life. Delirium and tantrums in children sometimes accompany high fevers and, although these are distressing, they are not dangerous. A one time convulsion that occurs with a fever is not a cause for concern (although they are unpleasant). It is the (rare) tendency to repeated convulsions with fevers that needs medical attention.

Some natural remedies:

Vinegar- we soak our kids' socks in vinegar, squeeze them out, then put them on. You can also use washclothes with vinegar on the body.

Onions- My grandmother told me the only method her mother used to reduce fevers (with her 9 children) was to put chopped onion pieces in the socks overnight. By morning the onion will be dry and the fever reduced.

From this site:
- Dress in lightweight clothing or remove clothing to allow heat loss through the skin. Socks, slippers, or a hat should not be used because heat escapes through the head and feet.

- Use a lightweight blanket if you feel cold or if you are shivering, and leave the feet exposed.

- Keep quiet (still) since activity increases body temperature.

- Get extra fluids to prevent dehydration or extra loss of water (water, iced drinks, popsicles, Jello, orjuices).

If the fever is really high, you can sponge in a few inches of lukewarm (not cold!) bath water. Don't use alcohol instead of water.

If you want to avoid any medication, garlic will bring a fever down. Put enough fresh cloves of garlic into a blender to make a paste that will spread about 1/4" thick on gauze. Put a little olive oil on the feet so the garlic will not irritate them. Apply the garlic pads to the soles of both feet and keep them in place by wrapping with gauze. Don't cover the soles of the feel entirely so heat can still escape. Leave the pads on overnight.

Our oldest daughter had her first febrile seizure this past winter. She woke up with a low grade fever, and common cold symptoms. During a nap, she had a seizure. Her temperature was only 102. Our homeopath suggested we take her to the ER since she is 6 years old to rule anything out. She was fine- it ended up being the flu. That week her fever spiked to 106 degrees F. At that point we did give her some children's motrin, she was just exhausted and distressed. After that bad spike, she began to heal and kept a fever of 104 for a few more days and it eventually tapered off. The seizure was extremely frightening to me, she didn't convulse like I had thought it would be like, she was laughing uncontrollably and urinated while her eyes were just blank. Now that I know more about Febrile seizures, I will be less afraid next time (if there is one).

Please share you fever experiences!

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Chicken Pox

Jan. 9th, 2006 | 10:56 am
mood: mellowmellow
posted by: allgirlsmama in nonvaxsupport

It's that time of the year!

Some Chicken Pox/Varicella facts:

*Chicken Pox is a common disease caused by the varicella-zoster virus (VZV), which is part of the herpesvirus family.

*Varicella-zoster virus spreads in the air through coughs or sneezes or through contact with fluid from inside the chickenpox blisters.


10-21 days after exposure-
Low grade fever.
Runny nose, slight cough.
Decrease in appetite.
Tired, rundown feeling.
These symptoms usually occur 24-48 hours before the spots appear on the body.

*Chickenpox is a viral infection that causes a red, itchy rash on the skin. The chickenpox rash usually appears first on the abdomen or back and face, and then spreads to almost everywhere else on the body, including the scalp, mouth, nose, ears, and genitals.

*The rash begins as multiple small, red bumps that look like pimples or insect bites. They develop into thin-walled blisters filled with clear fluid, which then becomes cloudy. The blister wall breaks, leaving open sores, which finally crust over to become dry, brown scabs. One of the most characteristic features of the chickenpox rash is that all stages of the lesions can be present at the same time.

*Chickenpox blisters are about a quarter to half an inch wide, have a reddish base, and appear in bouts over 2 to 4 days. Some children have only a few blisters, whereas others have several hundred. The rash may be more extensive or severe in kids who have skin disorders such as eczema.

*Some children have a fever, abdominal pain, or a vague sick feeling a day or 2 before the rash appears. These symptoms may last for a few days, and fever stays in the range of 100 to 102 degrees Fahrenheit (37.7 to 38.8 degrees Celsius), although it may occasionally be higher. Younger children often have milder symptoms and fewer blisters than older children or adults.

*Chickenpox usually lasts 7 to 10 days in children, but typically lasts longer in adults.

Passing it along:

*The contagious period for chickenpox begins about 2 days before the rash appears and lasts until all the blisters are crusted over.

*The incubation period for chickenpox is 10 to 21 days after exposure; most cases appear in 14 to 17 days. For example, if one child in a family breaks out with chickenpox picked up at school, siblings probably will show symptoms about 2 weeks later.

Healing ideas:

*Do not use Caladryl cream, aspirin, Tylenol, Ibuprofen, steroid cream
Acyclovir (Do not suppress the eruptions with anti-viral drugs (acyclovir)).

*The following may help relieve symptoms:

Plantain leaf poultices
Peppermint tea bath
Calendula cream

Chamomile and mint tea to help with irritability
Baking soda paste to help dry skin
Cool compresses

Benadryl - to help child sleep
Calamine lotion

Tepid baths with oatmeal, barley, baking soda, cornstarch
or arrowroot; Do not add bubble bath
You can soak your child in Aveeno baths (do not use the version of these products that contains camphor)

Keep child cool - heat worsens itching
Rub itchy spots with an ice cube
Keep fingernails short and clean

Give Rhus-toxicodendron 30 (homeopathic medicine), two pellets every three hours when itching is severe. If lesions are severe, oozing, or forming a heavy crust and slow to heal give Antimonium crudum 30 every three hours. (I strongly suggest CONSULTING A HOMEOPATH FIRST- each child has his/her own "type")

Like other viral illnesses, vitamin C, vitamin A in the form of beta carotene, and echinacea will provide support for the body's fight against
the disease.


Home remedies for Chicken Pox Scars , treating chicken pox marks-

Apply Sandalwood oil ( not the paste ) from the first day of appearance of rash till the fall of scabs. helps

Apply Vitamin E oil over the skin. Will help the healing process..

A bath of oatmeal is a natural remedy to relieve the itch due to chicken pox

Honey smeared over the skin will also help in healing the disease

Lukewarm water baths with neem leaves will help relieve the itching.

When it's time to call your care provider:

Chicken Pox on eyeball
infection of pox (an area of rash that leaks pus (thick, discolored fluid) or becomes red, warm, swollen, or sore)
difficulty breathing (including severe cough)
fever over 102 F (or if fever lasts more than 4 days)
child is less responsive, disoriented or confused
has a severe headache

The following is quoted from Dr. Will Taylor (homeopath):


While it is true that we cannot select a homoeopathic remedy merely on the
basis of the name of the disease - we need to select the one remedy that is
homoeopathic to the disharmony of the patient we are treating - it is also
the case that the epidemic illness of chickenpox impresses a distinct enough
stamp on the organism that we - even in our individuality - have a small
enough range of common responses that it is meaningful to talk about them.
With some understanding of acute-care prescribing & a rather small materia
medica, it is possible to effectively treat most cases of chickenpox at

Good resources for the materia medica (information on appropriate remedies)
needed for home prescribing for patients with chickenpox can be found in any
of the following books:

-Miranda Castro, The Complete Homeopathy Handbook (my favorite home-care
reference by a long shot - this takes a classical approach to acute-care
prescribing, and if you only have one home-care book, it should be this
one). If you find my comments below interesting, and wish to procede with
preparing yourself to do homoeopathic home care, buy this book and perhaps
one or two of the following list as well.

-Phyllis Speight, Homoeopathic Remedies for Children
-Christopher Hammond, How to Use Homoeopathy
-Cummings & Ullman, Everybody's Guide to Homeopathic Medicines
-Dana Ullman, Homeopathic Medicine for Children and Infants
-Panos & Heimlich, Homeopathic Medicine at Home

Knowing that the following list does not include *every* remedy that a
homoeopath might use to treat patients with chickenpox, I would recommend
you have the following in your medicine kit to be reasonably prepared:

(1) "An empty bottle" (I'm kindof teasing here) - not every person with
chickenpox needs to be treated, and in my experience most do not. A very
healthy response to this virus involves a small smattering of spots, a runny
nose, a low-grade fever & perhaps some small drop in energy that may last a
few days. If the picture of a homoeopathic remedy does not emerge clearly
in the child, don't treat them. Give them hugs, fluids, baths with oatmeal*
for itching, one of those really neat bed-tables you make out of a cut-out
cardboard packing box with cut-outs for a bowl & cup, read to them from
Winnie-the-Pooh, etc. (especially "Wheezles & Sneezles" from Now we are
Six). For my oldest boy (now 10), raspberry sherbet & a backrub is the most
consistently effective remedy for any ailment that comes along.

* - grind rolled oats in a blender or food processor, put a couple
tablespoons in a hank or dishrag & hang it from the faucet when you draw the

If the illness takes a course departing from this normal pattern of response
- e.g. excessive itching, horrible-looking eruption, a disturbing cough,
mental/emotional difficulties such as excessive irritability or clinginess,
difficulties with sleeping, or whatever, the organism is asking for help,
and the appropriate remedy will get things back on track. The following
short list of 8 remedies will cover about 95% of the cases of chickenpox
you'll encounter; the remaining 5% will need any one of a huge variety of
remedies at the discretion of a trained homoeopath. I generally recommend
that my patients who stock remedies for home care get them in 12C potencies.
Most of the following will be in a kit put together for homecare, such as
the 50-remedy kit of 12C potencies put together by Washington Homeopathic
Products. Dosing, repetition of dose, etc. are discussed in the home-care
manuals above, most thoroughly in Miranda Castro's book.

These are listed in order of the frequency with which I've prescribed them
for patients with chickenpox, from most frequent to least frequent. The
pictures below are fragmentary pictures of how kids needing these remedies
will look in a bout of chickenpox - don't rely just on them, but use them as
a jumping-off point in working with your reading resources.

(2) Pulsatilla nigrans (perhaps 60% of the cases I've treated)
When the child has developed the disharmony calling for this remedy, it is
usually the mental/emotional and general symptoms of the person that
identify the match to this remedy. The classical symptoms of "Chickenpox"
are not that remarkable - modest rash, modest fever. However, the child is
weepy, clingy, wants to be held & to sleep with the parent. The itching is
worse from heat, such as a hot bath or heat of the bed, so they are likely
to uncover, sleep poorly in a warm room, prever a tepid bath, etc. Bedtime
is especially hard, because of separation from the parents & warmth of the
bed, but it's just a hard time of the day for them anyway. Despite fever
they may not be very thirsty. There may be some cough, worse on lying down
at night & from the heat of the bed, better with cooler & moving air & on
sitting up.

(3) Rhus toxicodendron (perhaps 15% of the cases I've treated)
The striking symptoms indicating that the child is in a state calling for
this remedy are generally tremendous itching and a physical and emotional
restlessness. Bedtime may be hard again, but this time because restlessness
makes it difficult physically to lie in bed & fall asleep. They may wake
exhausted with busy dreams & have to get up - they may come into the
parents' room, but not so much for the snuggle as out of restlessness
driving them out of their own bed. Itching is awful, especially at night,
but not because of the heat of the bed; itching is worse with cold, and
relieved by an extremely hot bath, worse when at rest, and they feel they
have to scratch & will excoriate their rash by scratching. The pox may be
expecially large & filled with thin or thick pus-like fluid which may run
when the blisters break. I have never seen the red-tipped tongue keynote
reported in the literature in this acute presentation of a Rhus-tox picture.

(4) Antimonium tartaricum (<10%)
Here it is the cough that will most often alert you to the need for this
remedy. the cough may be very moist-sounding and rattly, raising the
concern about bronchitis or pneumonia (both of which may complicate
Chickenpox - this will often be the remedy when that is the case, but do not
ignore conventional medical supportive care [I'm refering to supportive
care, not to allopathic treatment] if this is a concern). The rash may be
large, and may weep a yellow fluid crusting like dried honey - sometimes it
is only the appearance of an extensive eruption of this character that
alerts to the need for this remedy, even in the absence of problematic
cough. The child will often be mildly ill-tempered, not wanting to be
looked at or touched. A white coating is often seen on the tongue.

(5) Antimonium crudum (pretty unusual)
Very much like Antimonium tartaricum, above, but when the ill-temper is much
more evident.

(6) Mercurius vivus (or Mercurius solubilis) (<5%)
High fevers, at night, with profuse sweat. Large eruptions with pus-filled
blisters and pus-like discharge that may be irritating, with soreness of the
affected skin. Much redness about the eruptions. Narrow range of
temperature comfort - worse with cool and with heat. These kids are
normally pretty sick.

(7) Aconite
Usually a phase very early in the illness, folks in this state generally are
well past it & onto another phase of the illness by the time they get into
my office, so when I've given this it's usually an 11pm phone prescription.
Very sudden onset of high fever, most often around 11pm to midnight, with
fear, night-terrors or nightmares, & tho apparently awake they don't respond
as if they were, being inconsolable in their fear. The illnes often begins
following exposure to cold wind. At this point, you probably wouldn't know
it's chickenpox yet, they probably won't break out until the next day; if
the rash has already come out, the symptoms above eclipse the concerns that
the rash might raise directly.

(8) Belladonna
Very hot, dry fever, without thirst, usually of rapid onset, worse in the
mid-afternoon & on into evening (3pm, fever on waking from the afternoon
nap). Dry, flushed red skin, burning up tho the hands & feet may be cool.
Headache. Twitchings & startings in feverish sleep. Usually early in the
illness, & tho the rash has often come out at this point, the rash itself
doesn't seem as significant as the feverish symptoms above.

(9) Sulphur
Usually recognized as the remedy when the illness has dragged on with slow
recovery, the eruption crusty & weeping after scratching. Warm, uncovering
at night, worse from heat (itching & generally), itching with redness about
the eruption which is worse with heat of bed or bath."


Please share your experiences! :)

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Nov. 10th, 2005 | 05:46 pm
mood: optimisticoptimistic
posted by: allgirlsmama in nonvaxsupport

Starting this journal to keep the non-vax option alive and understood.

It's intended to be used as a support group for those of us who choose not to vaccinate our children. I would like to share tips for boosting immune systems, natural remedies for ailments, information about childhood diseases (their characteristics, remedies, etc..), and of course information pertaining to the vaccines in today's market.

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